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Ciara And Julie?
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David Amicus
2018-12-10 18:44:29 UTC
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How is Julie grandmother the grandmother of Ciara? Julie and Hope are sisters.
hobbes
2018-12-10 19:29:45 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
How is Julie grandmother the grandmother of Ciara? Julie and Hope are sisters.
Doug is Hope's father and Julie's husband that would make Julie and Ciara step-grandma/step-granddaughter.
David Amicus
2018-12-10 19:31:14 UTC
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Post by hobbes
Post by David Amicus
How is Julie grandmother the grandmother of Ciara? Julie and Hope are sisters.
Doug is Hope's father and Julie's husband that would make Julie and Ciara step-grandma/step-granddaughter.
Wouldn't aunt be more appropriate?
suzeeq
2018-12-10 20:29:26 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
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Post by David Amicus
How is Julie grandmother the grandmother of Ciara? Julie and Hope are sisters.
Doug is Hope's father and Julie's husband that would make Julie and Ciara step-grandma/step-granddaughter.
Wouldn't aunt be more appropriate?
It could be, but does that make Doug her uncle and not her grandfather?
David Amicus
2018-12-10 20:48:37 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
How is Julie grandmother the grandmother of Ciara? Julie and Hope are sisters.
Doug is Hope's father and Julie's husband that would make Julie and Ciara step-grandma/step-granddaughter.
Wouldn't aunt be more appropriate?
It could be, but does that make Doug her uncle and not her grandfather?
Both. ;-)))
Rick
2018-12-11 01:35:11 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
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Post by David Amicus
How is Julie grandmother the grandmother of Ciara? Julie and Hope are sisters.
Doug is Hope's father and Julie's husband that would make Julie and Ciara
step-grandma/step-granddaughter.
Wouldn't aunt be more appropriate?
I have commented on this before For years the show has downplayed the fact
that Julie and Hope are sisters. For literally several years, the show
never acknowledged they have this relationship and instead always tried to
emphasize that Julie is Hope's step mother. Therefore, in the show's
mantra, Ciara thinks of Julie as her step-grandmother, even though you are
absolutely correct she is also her aunt, which is really the more logical
relationship since it shows they are blood relatives.

As to why the show tries so hard to minimize the fact that Julie and Hope
are siblings, the most popular theory is that Kristian Alfonso doesn't want
anyone to think of her as "old", so she wants to make sure it is clear in
everyone's mind that she is a lot younger than Julie. Therefore, so the
theory goes, Kristian has asked the writers to make sure they avoid too many
direct references to her and Julie being sisters and to emphasize that she
is Julie's step-daughter.

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David Amicus
2018-12-11 03:26:52 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
How is Julie grandmother the grandmother of Ciara? Julie and Hope are sisters.
Doug is Hope's father and Julie's husband that would make Julie and Ciara
step-grandma/step-granddaughter.
Wouldn't aunt be more appropriate?
I have commented on this before For years the show has downplayed the fact
that Julie and Hope are sisters. For literally several years, the show
never acknowledged they have this relationship and instead always tried to
emphasize that Julie is Hope's step mother. Therefore, in the show's
mantra, Ciara thinks of Julie as her step-grandmother, even though you are
absolutely correct she is also her aunt, which is really the more logical
relationship since it shows they are blood relatives.
As to why the show tries so hard to minimize the fact that Julie and Hope
are siblings, the most popular theory is that Kristian Alfonso doesn't want
anyone to think of her as "old", so she wants to make sure it is clear in
everyone's mind that she is a lot younger than Julie. Therefore, so the
theory goes, Kristian has asked the writers to make sure they avoid too many
direct references to her and Julie being sisters and to emphasize that she
is Julie's step-daughter.
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I have heard Hope called grandmother.
Rick
2018-12-11 04:45:48 UTC
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How is Julie grandmother the grandmother of Ciara? Julie and Hope
are
sisters.
Doug is Hope's father and Julie's husband that would make Julie and Ciara
step-grandma/step-granddaughter.
Wouldn't aunt be more appropriate?
I have commented on this before For years the show has downplayed the fact
that Julie and Hope are sisters. For literally several years, the show
never acknowledged they have this relationship and instead always tried to
emphasize that Julie is Hope's step mother. Therefore, in the show's
mantra, Ciara thinks of Julie as her step-grandmother, even though you are
absolutely correct she is also her aunt, which is really the more logical
relationship since it shows they are blood relatives.
As to why the show tries so hard to minimize the fact that Julie and Hope
are siblings, the most popular theory is that Kristian Alfonso doesn't want
anyone to think of her as "old", so she wants to make sure it is clear in
everyone's mind that she is a lot younger than Julie. Therefore, so the
theory goes, Kristian has asked the writers to make sure they avoid too many
direct references to her and Julie being sisters and to emphasize that she
is Julie's step-daughter.
--
I have heard Hope called grandmother.
Right, Claire has started calling her that the last couple of years. But
when Claire was first on the show, you almost never heard her say it and it
was almost like Claire and Hope weren't related. For a long time, the fact
that Claire and Ciara are related (Ciara is Claire's aunt) was also never
mentioned.

But that has started changing a bit.

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suzeeq
2018-12-11 06:14:19 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
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Post by hobbes
Post by David Amicus
How is Julie grandmother the grandmother of Ciara? Julie and Hope are sisters.
Doug is Hope's father and Julie's husband that would make Julie and Ciara
step-grandma/step-granddaughter.
Wouldn't aunt be more appropriate?
I have commented on this before For years the show has downplayed the fact
that Julie and Hope are sisters. For literally several years, the show
never acknowledged they have this relationship and instead always tried to
emphasize that Julie is Hope's step mother. Therefore, in the show's
mantra, Ciara thinks of Julie as her step-grandmother, even though you are
absolutely correct she is also her aunt, which is really the more logical
relationship since it shows they are blood relatives.
As to why the show tries so hard to minimize the fact that Julie and Hope
are siblings, the most popular theory is that Kristian Alfonso doesn't want
anyone to think of her as "old", so she wants to make sure it is clear in
everyone's mind that she is a lot younger than Julie. Therefore, so the
theory goes, Kristian has asked the writers to make sure they avoid too many
direct references to her and Julie being sisters and to emphasize that she
is Julie's step-daughter.
--
I have heard Hope called grandmother.
That would be Claire who called her that.
David Amicus
2018-12-11 03:35:29 UTC
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KA is 55yo. One of her children was born in 1990 so she could be a grandmother in real life.

Does she actually have a step-son named Spartan 3000?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristian_Alfonso
hobbes
2018-12-11 16:59:09 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
KA is 55yo. One of her children was born in 1990 so she could be a grandmother in real life.
Does she actually have a step-son named Spartan 3000?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristian_Alfonso
Don't know why Wikipedia said 3000. Spartan is his middle name.

https://www.instagram.com/thorvald_spartan/

He was born in 1993. She doesn't have any grandchildren this time.

Here's her family tree:

https://www.famechain.com/family-tree/21765/kristian-daggenhurst
David Amicus
2018-12-11 18:13:12 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
KA is 55yo. One of her children was born in 1990 so she could be a grandmother in real life.
Does she actually have a step-son named Spartan 3000?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristian_Alfonso
Don't know why Wikipedia said 3000. Spartan is his middle name.
https://www.instagram.com/thorvald_spartan/
He was born in 1993. She doesn't have any grandchildren this time.
https://www.famechain.com/family-tree/21765/kristian-daggenhurst
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